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'Occupy Wall Street' organizer slings insults during heated debate

This is a rush transcript from "Hannity," May 3, 2012. This copy may not be in its final form and may be updated.

SEAN HANNITY, HOST: My next guest, an "Occupy Wall Street" organizer, says that the left-wing fringe group has a tall and radical order ahead of them.

Harrison Schultz was asked on May Day about his organization's motives. Let's listen to what he had to say.


HARRISON SCHULTZ, "OCCUPY" PARTICIPANT: We never left. We were just tired. I mean, anarchy isn't easy. This is a lot of work. We had to hibernate for awhile, but today we are resurging. The energy is really good out in the streets.

The problem here is capitalism. That's what needs to change. That's what is failing all of these people. I personally don't care about this election. I know other people are working on it.

But I am looking at far, far more radical alternatives than political alternatives. I would like to actually see a new form of politics entirely.


HANNITY: So anarchy is not easy and more radical alternatives are being explored. Well, from the look of these new pictures from May Day, well, they seem to be pretty radical alternatives to me.

Now the protest quickly turned into a violent and dangerous scene of smashing store windows, attacking police, defacing bank and store fronts.

Joining me now to explain what the motives of this group really are, "Occupy Wall Street" organizer, Harrison Schultz. Thanks for being here.

SCHULTZ: Thanks for having me, Sean.

HANNITY: Appreciate it.

SCHULTZ: Let me start by saying, thank you for letting a dirty hippie come in and explain his views --

HANNITY: You're dirty? You don't take a shower?

SCHULTZ: Well, no, this is the way your news network is portraying us.

HANNITY: Did I ever say you are dirty or a hippie? Did I say any of that?

SCHULTZ: Yes, in August. You were making fun of my friends.

HANNITY: You mean the ones having sex in public, doing drugs and defecating on cars and those who are in other cities that were actually being violent breaking store windows, cursing out police and all of that? You mean those guys, those guys? Because I have tapes of all of that.

SCHULTZ: No, no, no. Those were the people that the NYPD was sending to the park to discredit us and make us look bad. And actually give your network something to focus on.

HANNITY: So you are in Zuccotti Park.

SCHULTZ: I stopped hanging out right around the NYPD --

HANNITY: Zuccotti Park, "yes" or "no." Were you at Zuccotti Park?


HANNITY: Why did they have set up a special, protective rape-free zone tent because of the rapes that took place in Zuccotti Park.

SCHULTZ: The NYPD was sending rapists down to the park.

HANNITY: So the NYPD -- do you have any evidence about this?

SCHULTZ: This was in the NY Times, New York Times.

HANNITY: I asked you a question -- the New York Times said that the police sent rapists to rape women down there?

SCHULTZ: They sent alcoholics. They sent offenders. They sent people who were convicted of rapes.

HANNITY: Do you have any evidence to back it up --

SCHULTZ: I can give testimony. I didn't bring my files with me, but you can check this out --

HANNITY: The New York Police Department brought rapists in and as a result women were raped so a special rape protective zone was set up?

SCHULTZ: You got to admit, it was a really cynical, really effective tactic on the part of the authorities. They knew that we wouldn't turn people away because we like to help people, like Christians should -- even though most of us are not Christian.

HANNITY: You sound paranoid.

SCHULTZ: They definitely exploited a lot of our values and turned it against us and sent people that we tried to help --

HANNITY: What about the violence that took place in other cities and the broken store windows and the sex in public and drug use in public and defecating on a police car, was that a police conspiracy too?

SCHULTZ: I don't think there is anything particularly radical --

HANNITY: About taking a on a car?

SCHULTZ: That's very cliché, that's very ineffective --

HANNITY: Things in public happened, sex in public happened, rape in Zuccotti Park happened.

SCHULTZ: These things are not cool. I denounce those things as well. These things are beyond not cool.

HANNITY: Rape is not cool, OK?

SCHULTZ: Yes, it's beyond not cool. It's horrible, it's offensive, but I am trying to keep the conversation -- let's keep going --

HANNITY: I have a handbook here. 'Anarchists Basics,' have you seen this?

SCHULTZ: No. I've never seen that.

HANNITY: In the back of this book, it has a link to a web site, bombs and shields. Ever been to that web site?

SCHULTZ: Never been to that site.

HANNITY: What is your problem with capitalism, what is your problem with the free market -- how old are you?

SCHULTZ: I'm 29, sir.

HANNITY: Do you have a job?

SCHULTZ: How old are you?

HANNITY: I'm 50. I look younger.

SCHULTZ: Yes, you do. You look good.

HANNITY: Thank you very much. I appreciate that coming from an "Occupy Wall Street" guy. Here's -- 29 years old, you have a job?

SCHULTZ: I did. I was laid off.

HANNITY: What was your job?

SCHULTZ: I was a business intelligence analyst for a marketing company, before I was doing data analysis for an advertising agency.

HANNITY: I don't need your life story. How do you make money?

SCHULTZ: You looked me up on my resume on LinkedIn. So you probably know this.

HANNITY: How do you make money today?

SCHULTZ: Right now, I am living off student loans.

HANNITY: Aren't student loans meant for college?

SCHULTZ: Grad school.

HANNITY: Do you go to college?

SCHULTZ: I go to grad school.

HANNITY: OK, you go to grad school, so that also provides money for housing. You have a place to live?

SCHULTZ: It's all private loans. They give me the money and that covers my living expenses.

HANNITY: Who gives you the money?

SCHULTZ: Access Group, U.S. federal loans. I forget.

HANNITY: All right, I looked at definition that they have and what an anarchist is.

SCHULTZ: You keep changing the subject -- we talking about loans or anarchy? I would like to keep talking about my problems with capitalism, personally. I would like to talk about my solutions, too.

HANNITY: Do you want to post your own show? You can go to work at MSNBC.

SCHULTZ: I would like to host my own show! That's what the up on movement is about, it's about getting people to start hosting their own shows so they stop listening to people like you.

HANNITY: Oh, this hurts!

SCHULTZ: We don't need you anymore.

HANNITY: You don't need me anymore?

SCHULTZ: Did you check the New York Times? TV viewership is actually on the decline -- two years in a row, on the way out --

HANNITY: Actually, I hate to tell you something, but this channel has been number one for 12 years. Number one in this slot, over a decade. Obviously, you don't -- the New York Times is all you read, you don't have good information.

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